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	<title>Comments on: Bike Shops share the blame in the slow growth of bike commuting</title>
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		<title>By: Lighting-Bulbs  &#38; Lens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lighting-Bulbs  &#38; Lens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been one of the most interesting threads I’ve read for a while. There are so many underlying factors of why bike commuting suffers from slow growth, as we’ve mentioned. And the ultimate problem is there is no common solution. What hinders bike commuting in one city can be vastly different from our city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been one of the most interesting threads I’ve read for a while. There are so many underlying factors of why bike commuting suffers from slow growth, as we’ve mentioned. And the ultimate problem is there is no common solution. What hinders bike commuting in one city can be vastly different from our city.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are some important reasons for the lack of support for commuting on the part of local bike shops, and they are related to an attitude that&#039;s embedded in many of the comments here.  

Bike shops (and this comment trail) are populated with folks who care deeply about bikes.  People who are very interested in the subtle differences like gear ratios and head tube angles.  People who can pull an old 520 out of the trash and with only $100 and a short bit of work have a commuter in good-as-new shape.  

For bike commuting to really catch on, it needs to be accessible to people who don&#039;t know, or care, about bikes.  People for whom understanding the difference between a cross bike and a touring bike is an uninteresting chore.  People who would rather not be expected to change their own tires.  

Let&#039;s consider cars as an analogy.  Imagine if all dealerships were staffed with people who spent a great deal of their free time and money either building and racing mud trucks or Super Stock cars.  You&#039;d have a hard time walking into a dealership and finding someone to talk to about seat comfort, or the number of kids to fit in the back of a given minivan.  The mud truck and super stock guys would have  a hard time even bringing themselves to carry station wagons.  

I think this is where bike commuting is today.   I also think that sexy, interesting, high margin products like the Civia Hyland, Trek Portland, Breezers, Fisher Simple City, and many others will play a role in bridging that gap.  Both the manufacturers and the shops are exploring now, to figure out what product details will actually make a commuter bike that many people can buy and use.  

The commuting population is also transitioning now.  I think there are a lot of people who can&#039;t rearrange their lives so that home and work are obviously only a bike ride apart, but who are now interested in getting a bike that will enable them, if they can figure out the other details, to commute by bike.  I think a lot of people are starting to work out this change in lifestyle, but it will take a long time for each individual or family to work out the practicalities, and to become confident that they have done so, and start giving up cars.  

All we can do today is start, and that&#039;s happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are some important reasons for the lack of support for commuting on the part of local bike shops, and they are related to an attitude that&#8217;s embedded in many of the comments here.  </p>
<p>Bike shops (and this comment trail) are populated with folks who care deeply about bikes.  People who are very interested in the subtle differences like gear ratios and head tube angles.  People who can pull an old 520 out of the trash and with only $100 and a short bit of work have a commuter in good-as-new shape.  </p>
<p>For bike commuting to really catch on, it needs to be accessible to people who don&#8217;t know, or care, about bikes.  People for whom understanding the difference between a cross bike and a touring bike is an uninteresting chore.  People who would rather not be expected to change their own tires.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s consider cars as an analogy.  Imagine if all dealerships were staffed with people who spent a great deal of their free time and money either building and racing mud trucks or Super Stock cars.  You&#8217;d have a hard time walking into a dealership and finding someone to talk to about seat comfort, or the number of kids to fit in the back of a given minivan.  The mud truck and super stock guys would have  a hard time even bringing themselves to carry station wagons.  </p>
<p>I think this is where bike commuting is today.   I also think that sexy, interesting, high margin products like the Civia Hyland, Trek Portland, Breezers, Fisher Simple City, and many others will play a role in bridging that gap.  Both the manufacturers and the shops are exploring now, to figure out what product details will actually make a commuter bike that many people can buy and use.  </p>
<p>The commuting population is also transitioning now.  I think there are a lot of people who can&#8217;t rearrange their lives so that home and work are obviously only a bike ride apart, but who are now interested in getting a bike that will enable them, if they can figure out the other details, to commute by bike.  I think a lot of people are starting to work out this change in lifestyle, but it will take a long time for each individual or family to work out the practicalities, and to become confident that they have done so, and start giving up cars.  </p>
<p>All we can do today is start, and that&#8217;s happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been one of the most interesting threads I&#039;ve read for a while. There are so many underlying factors of why bike commuting suffers from slow growth, as we&#039;ve mentioned. And the ultimate problem is there is no common solution. What hinders bike commuting in one city can be vastly different from our city. 

I, too, am from Des Moines...well, one of the western suburbs. I refuse to ride street during my morning commute as I&#039;ve been hit before and it&#039;s just too much for me. I use the trail system, as we don&#039;t really have bike lanes (and if you call the 3 ft margin on the side of some DSM roads a bike lane, you&#039;re f&#039;ing crazy.) and our trail system is purely built for recreation. I would love to see more bike lanes built, but it won&#039;t happen in our town for years. Counties around here are trying to figure out ways to get around liability for riders, rather than improving road conditions for all as it is.

But one thing that I think is important is that we lead by example. I live farthest from my office and am one of the more out-of-shape folks, but I do it. Not every day, but as much as I can. I ran a quick analysis of our office and 3/4 live within 5 miles. So, I add ideas to my general water cooler talk about bus systems, walking to work or at least lunch and car pooling routes and it&#039;s at least getting people to think alternatively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been one of the most interesting threads I&#8217;ve read for a while. There are so many underlying factors of why bike commuting suffers from slow growth, as we&#8217;ve mentioned. And the ultimate problem is there is no common solution. What hinders bike commuting in one city can be vastly different from our city. </p>
<p>I, too, am from Des Moines&#8230;well, one of the western suburbs. I refuse to ride street during my morning commute as I&#8217;ve been hit before and it&#8217;s just too much for me. I use the trail system, as we don&#8217;t really have bike lanes (and if you call the 3 ft margin on the side of some DSM roads a bike lane, you&#8217;re f&#8217;ing crazy.) and our trail system is purely built for recreation. I would love to see more bike lanes built, but it won&#8217;t happen in our town for years. Counties around here are trying to figure out ways to get around liability for riders, rather than improving road conditions for all as it is.</p>
<p>But one thing that I think is important is that we lead by example. I live farthest from my office and am one of the more out-of-shape folks, but I do it. Not every day, but as much as I can. I ran a quick analysis of our office and 3/4 live within 5 miles. So, I add ideas to my general water cooler talk about bus systems, walking to work or at least lunch and car pooling routes and it&#8217;s at least getting people to think alternatively.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to say, that my city is putting in more greenways and bike trails and routes, but if you look at the map, its mostly &#039;future&#039; or &#039;planned&#039; routes.  Specifically from where I live, its 40mph two lane roads with no shoulders and no passing, an drivers that never saw a bicycle.

Since you cannot ask a person to risk their life to get to work, commuting isn&#039;t much of an option.  You can get a bike, in addition to a car.  I made arrangements with a local church to park my car at their lot.  They are exactly 1/2 the distance to my work, and at their location a bike route exists to my employer.   So I save exactly 1/2 the mileage.  I get some exercise.   But I still need the car, so I still pay 1/2 the gas, 1/2 the mileage, 100% of the insurance, and about 90% of the depreciation, because thats more based on age than mileage.

All in all, I do it because I enjoy it, its hard to calculate it as much of a cost savings.

The bike I bought?  Absolute garbage, I didn&#039;t know anything about bikes, the brakes didn&#039;t work, the seat fell off it, the shifter kept shifting up at odd times.

I have no way to use a &#039;LBS&#039;...have no clue where one would be, and why anyone would pay them anything, bikes are supposed to be maintained by the owner.  So...I&#039;ve fixed all the issues that the bike came with, but I cannot imagine why they treated me like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to say, that my city is putting in more greenways and bike trails and routes, but if you look at the map, its mostly &#8216;future&#8217; or &#8216;planned&#8217; routes.  Specifically from where I live, its 40mph two lane roads with no shoulders and no passing, an drivers that never saw a bicycle.</p>
<p>Since you cannot ask a person to risk their life to get to work, commuting isn&#8217;t much of an option.  You can get a bike, in addition to a car.  I made arrangements with a local church to park my car at their lot.  They are exactly 1/2 the distance to my work, and at their location a bike route exists to my employer.   So I save exactly 1/2 the mileage.  I get some exercise.   But I still need the car, so I still pay 1/2 the gas, 1/2 the mileage, 100% of the insurance, and about 90% of the depreciation, because thats more based on age than mileage.</p>
<p>All in all, I do it because I enjoy it, its hard to calculate it as much of a cost savings.</p>
<p>The bike I bought?  Absolute garbage, I didn&#8217;t know anything about bikes, the brakes didn&#8217;t work, the seat fell off it, the shifter kept shifting up at odd times.</p>
<p>I have no way to use a &#8216;LBS&#8217;&#8230;have no clue where one would be, and why anyone would pay them anything, bikes are supposed to be maintained by the owner.  So&#8230;I&#8217;ve fixed all the issues that the bike came with, but I cannot imagine why they treated me like that.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doug,

i also have a rack with fold-out baskets.  If they are wire baskets, you can go shopping without a trailer: just take, or ask for, a cardboard box and bungee it to the platform formed by the fold out baskets and the rear rack.  You can put a BIG box back there and you can load in the wire baskets as well as in the cardboard box, which will itself hold 2 full grocery bags.

one thing to watch out for is weight, though.  If you have a lot of heavy items (2 gals of milk, a big tin of olive oil,) it can potentially wipe out your rear wheel . In that case, a trailer is a great option.  Especially since you already have one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doug,</p>
<p>i also have a rack with fold-out baskets.  If they are wire baskets, you can go shopping without a trailer: just take, or ask for, a cardboard box and bungee it to the platform formed by the fold out baskets and the rear rack.  You can put a BIG box back there and you can load in the wire baskets as well as in the cardboard box, which will itself hold 2 full grocery bags.</p>
<p>one thing to watch out for is weight, though.  If you have a lot of heavy items (2 gals of milk, a big tin of olive oil,) it can potentially wipe out your rear wheel . In that case, a trailer is a great option.  Especially since you already have one!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently made a trip to my local bicycle shop (by bicycle)to see what was new. I was pleased to see the number of folks inside. This is not the norm even though this is the only shop. I had to smile when I realized that they were all getting tuned up for a day&#039;s ride on their road bikes. I noticed also that most of the vehicles were SUV&#039;s. 
They do carry some items for the commuter. As far at bikes, it&#039;s mostly road bikes and some mountain. I currently use a mountain bike with street tires, a trunk with fold out panniers etc. It works OK but there is room for improvement. For trips to the store I have a trailer. Imagine the teller&#039;s surprise at the bank when I road up on my bike with trailer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently made a trip to my local bicycle shop (by bicycle)to see what was new. I was pleased to see the number of folks inside. This is not the norm even though this is the only shop. I had to smile when I realized that they were all getting tuned up for a day&#8217;s ride on their road bikes. I noticed also that most of the vehicles were SUV&#8217;s.<br />
They do carry some items for the commuter. As far at bikes, it&#8217;s mostly road bikes and some mountain. I currently use a mountain bike with street tires, a trunk with fold out panniers etc. It works OK but there is room for improvement. For trips to the store I have a trailer. Imagine the teller&#8217;s surprise at the bank when I road up on my bike with trailer.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The customers who know what they want will come in and ask for it.  the rest of them will only buy what they see or which is presented to them.  

I&#039;m betting that most bike shops could increase their sales of add-on stuff by making a display of, say, a regular bike with good racks and a trailer attached that has 3 or 4 bags of groceries loaded onto it (mock groceries--boxed goods) and a briefcase.

That puts the message out that &quot;hey, here&#039;s something that people do with their bikes&quot;.  

Also, it gets people thinking, if they are buying a bike, that they might want to get a trailer or have a rack and baskets installed on their bike.

Experienced bicyclists don&#039;t necessarily know what makes a great utility bike.  True afficionados do, but they get their info on the web!  But you can show the average casual cyclist, educate them about utility cycling and its possibilities,  in the shop.  

Sales people have to be friendly and be interested in their customers to be effective.  And people come into the shop because they are interested on some level in buying.  But it is up to the sales person to let them know the possibilities.  If, as some respondents seem to imply, salespeople are only &quot;responding&quot; to their clientele , they are not good at their job, maybe because they never studied it or because they aren&#039;t primarily salespeople, but bike technical people. 

Look at the car industry.  For years, they said publicly that &quot;we make SUVs because people want SUVs.&quot;  That was a partial truth.  A bigger truth was that the car cos. PRESENTED SUVs to people as a desirable option,(and it was in their interest to do so, because they were able to make a mint doing it)   people tend to select from the 2 or 3 options that you put in front of them.

If bike shops make a visual and verbal presentation of practical utility cycling, more people will set up their bikes for regular utility use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The customers who know what they want will come in and ask for it.  the rest of them will only buy what they see or which is presented to them.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m betting that most bike shops could increase their sales of add-on stuff by making a display of, say, a regular bike with good racks and a trailer attached that has 3 or 4 bags of groceries loaded onto it (mock groceries&#8211;boxed goods) and a briefcase.</p>
<p>That puts the message out that &#8220;hey, here&#8217;s something that people do with their bikes&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Also, it gets people thinking, if they are buying a bike, that they might want to get a trailer or have a rack and baskets installed on their bike.</p>
<p>Experienced bicyclists don&#8217;t necessarily know what makes a great utility bike.  True afficionados do, but they get their info on the web!  But you can show the average casual cyclist, educate them about utility cycling and its possibilities,  in the shop.  </p>
<p>Sales people have to be friendly and be interested in their customers to be effective.  And people come into the shop because they are interested on some level in buying.  But it is up to the sales person to let them know the possibilities.  If, as some respondents seem to imply, salespeople are only &#8220;responding&#8221; to their clientele , they are not good at their job, maybe because they never studied it or because they aren&#8217;t primarily salespeople, but bike technical people. </p>
<p>Look at the car industry.  For years, they said publicly that &#8220;we make SUVs because people want SUVs.&#8221;  That was a partial truth.  A bigger truth was that the car cos. PRESENTED SUVs to people as a desirable option,(and it was in their interest to do so, because they were able to make a mint doing it)   people tend to select from the 2 or 3 options that you put in front of them.</p>
<p>If bike shops make a visual and verbal presentation of practical utility cycling, more people will set up their bikes for regular utility use.</p>
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		<title>By: LCI-Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCI-Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an LAB League Cycling Instructor from Des Moines, Iowa.  I have two recumbents (Vision VR44 SWB USS and Trimuter trike) and an Electra Townie.  The Vision is my &quot;road/RAGBRAI&quot; bike; the trike is for bringing along my four year-old stoker on a Burley Piccolo (which, as a full-time mom, is 90% of my riding), and the Townie is my &quot;teaching bike&quot;.  I commute on all of them.  All have mirrors, fenders, racks, bags, and lights; I even added a WizWheelz rack to the Piccolo so we&#039;ll have plenty of room for playground toys, picnic goodies, and swimming gear.  I think that most bikes can be made into decent commuting bikes.  In my opinion, the problem lies more in people&#039;s fear of riding on the streets--and with good reason.  There are plenty of motorists out there who are just plain bullies.  It takes a lot of guts to hold your line in your lane when a cube truck crowds you.  And I can&#039;t tell you how warm and fuzzy it makes me feel to be told to &quot;Get off the f-in&#039; road!&quot;  Tell me:  How many of us have taken a bike ed course vs just steeling our nerves and learning as we go?  Not too many folks are willing to take that risk.  So I submit that if more educational opportunities for learning to ride in traffic were available, then more people would commute on the bike of their choice.  The League&#039;s bike ed courses do just that, and more (We also offer a motorist ed course to teach motorists how to behave around cyclists, and how cyclists *should* be behaving around cars).  It would seem to me that it would be in best interest of LBS&#039;s to offer those classes to their customers.  Then there would be a greater number of educated commuting cyclists on the roads who need somewhere to buy appropriate equipment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an LAB League Cycling Instructor from Des Moines, Iowa.  I have two recumbents (Vision VR44 SWB USS and Trimuter trike) and an Electra Townie.  The Vision is my &#8220;road/RAGBRAI&#8221; bike; the trike is for bringing along my four year-old stoker on a Burley Piccolo (which, as a full-time mom, is 90% of my riding), and the Townie is my &#8220;teaching bike&#8221;.  I commute on all of them.  All have mirrors, fenders, racks, bags, and lights; I even added a WizWheelz rack to the Piccolo so we&#8217;ll have plenty of room for playground toys, picnic goodies, and swimming gear.  I think that most bikes can be made into decent commuting bikes.  In my opinion, the problem lies more in people&#8217;s fear of riding on the streets&#8211;and with good reason.  There are plenty of motorists out there who are just plain bullies.  It takes a lot of guts to hold your line in your lane when a cube truck crowds you.  And I can&#8217;t tell you how warm and fuzzy it makes me feel to be told to &#8220;Get off the f-in&#8217; road!&#8221;  Tell me:  How many of us have taken a bike ed course vs just steeling our nerves and learning as we go?  Not too many folks are willing to take that risk.  So I submit that if more educational opportunities for learning to ride in traffic were available, then more people would commute on the bike of their choice.  The League&#8217;s bike ed courses do just that, and more (We also offer a motorist ed course to teach motorists how to behave around cyclists, and how cyclists *should* be behaving around cars).  It would seem to me that it would be in best interest of LBS&#8217;s to offer those classes to their customers.  Then there would be a greater number of educated commuting cyclists on the roads who need somewhere to buy appropriate equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are both nec. but commuters make up about 5% of the profit @ my LBS, Thinking financially- promoting commuting doesn&#039;t make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are both nec. but commuters make up about 5% of the profit @ my LBS, Thinking financially- promoting commuting doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: icon o'classt</title>
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		<dc:creator>icon o'classt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Why aren’t they (LBS) changing their business to push people out of the cycling-as-a-sport mentality?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  

Pushing people out of the &quot;cycling-as-a-sport mentality&quot; and into the &quot;cycling-as-legitimate-transportation mentality&quot; don&#039;t have to be mutually exclusive things.  You can have both.  Both are legit, both are welcome, both are necessary.  The goal of an LBS employee shouldn&#039;t be to convince a prospective buyer that the biking style they enjoy isn&#039;t the &quot;right&quot; one.

Just a small point.  I think your article on the whole is great and makes an excellent point.  Oh, and FWIW, I commute on a Salsa Casseroll (and a Surly Cross-check), ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Why aren’t they (LBS) changing their business to push people out of the cycling-as-a-sport mentality?&#8221;</i>  </p>
<p>Pushing people out of the &#8220;cycling-as-a-sport mentality&#8221; and into the &#8220;cycling-as-legitimate-transportation mentality&#8221; don&#8217;t have to be mutually exclusive things.  You can have both.  Both are legit, both are welcome, both are necessary.  The goal of an LBS employee shouldn&#8217;t be to convince a prospective buyer that the biking style they enjoy isn&#8217;t the &#8220;right&#8221; one.</p>
<p>Just a small point.  I think your article on the whole is great and makes an excellent point.  Oh, and FWIW, I commute on a Salsa Casseroll (and a Surly Cross-check), ha.</p>
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