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	<title>Comments on: Commuting 101: Learn your local &#8220;village&#8221;</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clemone</title>
		<link>http://commutebybike.com/2008/03/07/commuting-101-learn-your-local-village/#comment-84527</link>
		<dc:creator>clemone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all of these places are within a 2 mile radius

a large park, a couple smaller parks, five museums, two grocery stores (one of which is 24 hours), eight corner stores (three of which are 24 hours), five cafes (one of which i work at, nine if you want to count starbucks), a teahouse, three pizza joints (one which is only open from 5pm to 3am), five adult/headshops (one open late another is open 24 hours), four 24 hour restaraunts, 20+ restaraunts with normal hours, five bars, countless gay bars, three bike shops, five thrift stores, an art supply store, a hardware store, three universities and one community college, four tattoo parlors, four upscale boutiques, a couple of venues etc. etc.

this is just the stuff i can remember off the top of my head, i am missing plenty. this is what happens when you do not have zoning laws in a city. i love houston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all of these places are within a 2 mile radius</p>
<p>a large park, a couple smaller parks, five museums, two grocery stores (one of which is 24 hours), eight corner stores (three of which are 24 hours), five cafes (one of which i work at, nine if you want to count starbucks), a teahouse, three pizza joints (one which is only open from 5pm to 3am), five adult/headshops (one open late another is open 24 hours), four 24 hour restaraunts, 20+ restaraunts with normal hours, five bars, countless gay bars, three bike shops, five thrift stores, an art supply store, a hardware store, three universities and one community college, four tattoo parlors, four upscale boutiques, a couple of venues etc. etc.</p>
<p>this is just the stuff i can remember off the top of my head, i am missing plenty. this is what happens when you do not have zoning laws in a city. i love houston.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrin</title>
		<link>http://commutebybike.com/2008/03/07/commuting-101-learn-your-local-village/#comment-84332</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I want to move now. I work 2 miles from my home, any kind of shopping I could need. Movies,food stores, clothing stores, hardware, discount stores, anything! I got it too easy, sorry folks. I feel bad now. I thouhgt I was doing soo good by riding everywhere I went. Not bad when it's only a 7-8 mile round trip. some folks have it hard. I really am thankful for what I have at this point in my life. Life on a bike can be a great joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I want to move now. I work 2 miles from my home, any kind of shopping I could need. Movies,food stores, clothing stores, hardware, discount stores, anything! I got it too easy, sorry folks. I feel bad now. I thouhgt I was doing soo good by riding everywhere I went. Not bad when it&#8217;s only a 7-8 mile round trip. some folks have it hard. I really am thankful for what I have at this point in my life. Life on a bike can be a great joy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AKAMIE,

Out of curiosity, what general part of ATL did you move to that is ideally suited to a bike?

It seems a little difficult to find areas over here on the East side which are low on hills and high on amenities.

Are you somewhere along or close to one of the MARTA rail lines? I find that the MARTA buses are waaay to unreliable and slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AKAMIE,</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, what general part of ATL did you move to that is ideally suited to a bike?</p>
<p>It seems a little difficult to find areas over here on the East side which are low on hills and high on amenities.</p>
<p>Are you somewhere along or close to one of the MARTA rail lines? I find that the MARTA buses are waaay to unreliable and slow.</p>
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		<title>By: AKAMIE</title>
		<link>http://commutebybike.com/2008/03/07/commuting-101-learn-your-local-village/#comment-83495</link>
		<dc:creator>AKAMIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and I did MOVE so that I would be in the ideal car free area. It's all about choices, that's what I always say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and I did MOVE so that I would be in the ideal car free area. It&#8217;s all about choices, that&#8217;s what I always say.</p>
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		<title>By: AKAMIE</title>
		<link>http://commutebybike.com/2008/03/07/commuting-101-learn-your-local-village/#comment-83494</link>
		<dc:creator>AKAMIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky for me ATLANTA is set up great for local 'villages' every neighborhood has what you need for the most part, groceries, pet stores, post offices, home depot! They are moving towards live/work communities which make 'life style-cycling' much easier!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky for me ATLANTA is set up great for local &#8216;villages&#8217; every neighborhood has what you need for the most part, groceries, pet stores, post offices, home depot! They are moving towards live/work communities which make &#8216;life style-cycling&#8217; much easier!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rogers</title>
		<link>http://commutebybike.com/2008/03/07/commuting-101-learn-your-local-village/#comment-77582</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Noah.  While I'd love to have cool people like you here in the core of KC, I understand everyone has different circumstances. Although I have to say I managed to find a three bedroom house with large yard and two car garage in a great urban neighborhood outside of Downtown.  Not all of the city is high rise apartments.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that even the burbs there are often opportunities for a pedestrian lifestyle.  Most cities have original streetcar suburbs with compact downtown areas, surrounded by single-family housing.  Further out, many of the newer suburbs are former small towns that still have downtown or Main Street area with shops and services.

Going forward, the 20-mile American commute is going to become a lot less sustainable.  We have to make some hard choices about the geography of where we live, work, and play.  At least are there often more options than we sometimes realize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Noah.  While I&#8217;d love to have cool people like you here in the core of KC, I understand everyone has different circumstances. Although I have to say I managed to find a three bedroom house with large yard and two car garage in a great urban neighborhood outside of Downtown.  Not all of the city is high rise apartments.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that even the burbs there are often opportunities for a pedestrian lifestyle.  Most cities have original streetcar suburbs with compact downtown areas, surrounded by single-family housing.  Further out, many of the newer suburbs are former small towns that still have downtown or Main Street area with shops and services.</p>
<p>Going forward, the 20-mile American commute is going to become a lot less sustainable.  We have to make some hard choices about the geography of where we live, work, and play.  At least are there often more options than we sometimes realize.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved about 9 months ago as well, but for many reasons, moving to the urban core wasn't even close to a viable option.  I moved 9 miles closer to work, but basically just to a different suburb of a similar size that's further north.

The place we were living was undergoing massive development.  Before this development, there were a few banks and smallish shops within two miles.  Within three miles there was a Target, best Buy, border's my bike shop and some other good stuff.  Moving put me closer to more amenities and reduced my "epic" 50 mile round trip (ridden in its entirety only on occasion, I mostly did bike/bus commuting) to a daily-ridable 28 miles.

There's a lot of good brainstorming and idea building among you guys.   I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved about 9 months ago as well, but for many reasons, moving to the urban core wasn&#8217;t even close to a viable option.  I moved 9 miles closer to work, but basically just to a different suburb of a similar size that&#8217;s further north.</p>
<p>The place we were living was undergoing massive development.  Before this development, there were a few banks and smallish shops within two miles.  Within three miles there was a Target, best Buy, border&#8217;s my bike shop and some other good stuff.  Moving put me closer to more amenities and reduced my &#8220;epic&#8221; 50 mile round trip (ridden in its entirety only on occasion, I mostly did bike/bus commuting) to a daily-ridable 28 miles.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of good brainstorming and idea building among you guys.   I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, it can be a discovery process to find your local village. I just moved across town from a third tier suburb (where there were no sidewalks and only highway and two-lane county roads in and out) to a second tier suburb where dang near everything I want can be had within 2 or 3 miles. It's also in the middle of a great trail system so I can often ride with very little road time if I want. Nearly everything was impossible to walk and too long bike ride to be practical. I know everyone can't up and move but you don't have to live downtown to be close either. Just for kicks, here's my before and after distances:

Before - what - after
4 miles - Barber - 3 blocks
4 miles - Post office - 4 blocks
3 miles - Vet - 4 blocks
8 miles - LBS - 1 mile
2 miles - Grocery store - 1.5 miles
25 miles - CostCo - 2.5 miles
8 miles - Menards - 2 miles
8 miles - Home Depot - 2.5 miles
8 miles - Target - 2 miles

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, it can be a discovery process to find your local village. I just moved across town from a third tier suburb (where there were no sidewalks and only highway and two-lane county roads in and out) to a second tier suburb where dang near everything I want can be had within 2 or 3 miles. It&#8217;s also in the middle of a great trail system so I can often ride with very little road time if I want. Nearly everything was impossible to walk and too long bike ride to be practical. I know everyone can&#8217;t up and move but you don&#8217;t have to live downtown to be close either. Just for kicks, here&#8217;s my before and after distances:</p>
<p>Before - what - after<br />
4 miles - Barber - 3 blocks<br />
4 miles - Post office - 4 blocks<br />
3 miles - Vet - 4 blocks<br />
8 miles - LBS - 1 mile<br />
2 miles - Grocery store - 1.5 miles<br />
25 miles - CostCo - 2.5 miles<br />
8 miles - Menards - 2 miles<br />
8 miles - Home Depot - 2.5 miles<br />
8 miles - Target - 2 miles</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Jett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea Noah.  There are all sorts of ways to increase the number of trips by bike and this is one I want to work on more.

I was thinking about sponsoring a recurring "scavenger hunt" sort of ride that would locate themed destinations such as "Best place to get a gallon of milk" or "Best Appetizer Value".  Bonus points awarded for bike racks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea Noah.  There are all sorts of ways to increase the number of trips by bike and this is one I want to work on more.</p>
<p>I was thinking about sponsoring a recurring &#8220;scavenger hunt&#8221; sort of ride that would locate themed destinations such as &#8220;Best place to get a gallon of milk&#8221; or &#8220;Best Appetizer Value&#8221;.  Bonus points awarded for bike racks.</p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a great points there. Especially noteworthy would be for people to think about the "savings" of driving to the MART stores....to buy milk instead of the corner gas station. So you save .50 cents a gallon on milk; did you spend .50 cents on gas? Could you survive by shopping a bit more often at the corner grocery and doing it by bike instead of loading up the SUV with a month's worth of supplies? Ah...soap box time done. Hopefully more people will start to see the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a great points there. Especially noteworthy would be for people to think about the &#8220;savings&#8221; of driving to the MART stores&#8230;.to buy milk instead of the corner gas station. So you save .50 cents a gallon on milk; did you spend .50 cents on gas? Could you survive by shopping a bit more often at the corner grocery and doing it by bike instead of loading up the SUV with a month&#8217;s worth of supplies? Ah&#8230;soap box time done. Hopefully more people will start to see the light.</p>
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