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		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surly Steve:  You are quite welcome.  I think what jamesmallon, and some others, are forgetting (and maybe that&#039;s why my comeback was a tad strident) is that some day we&#039;ll ALL be in the same boat:  beset with the age related reduced capacity to just get on and ride.

The fact that you ride a Surly one-legged inspires me and gives me hope that I can ride much longer as I age.  (It also will shame me a bit when I&#039;m tempted to wimp out from commuting on my bike when I see a few rain clouds gathering.)

I think cargo bikes in general, and the Big Dummy especially, are important pieces of the world wide transportation puzzle as we look for ways to protect our environment and pursue a healthy life style.  Cargo bikes are probably the single exception to my belief that recumbents are the perfect commuting bike:  a cargo bike is MORE perfect if you need to tote a lot of stuff.

Oh, and thanks, Alex, I missed your complement over the busy holidays.  I guess that English degree I got thirty years ago paid off at last, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surly Steve:  You are quite welcome.  I think what jamesmallon, and some others, are forgetting (and maybe that&#8217;s why my comeback was a tad strident) is that some day we&#8217;ll ALL be in the same boat:  beset with the age related reduced capacity to just get on and ride.</p>
<p>The fact that you ride a Surly one-legged inspires me and gives me hope that I can ride much longer as I age.  (It also will shame me a bit when I&#8217;m tempted to wimp out from commuting on my bike when I see a few rain clouds gathering.)</p>
<p>I think cargo bikes in general, and the Big Dummy especially, are important pieces of the world wide transportation puzzle as we look for ways to protect our environment and pursue a healthy life style.  Cargo bikes are probably the single exception to my belief that recumbents are the perfect commuting bike:  a cargo bike is MORE perfect if you need to tote a lot of stuff.</p>
<p>Oh, and thanks, Alex, I missed your complement over the busy holidays.  I guess that English degree I got thirty years ago paid off at last, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Surly Steve SingleLeggedTrucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surly Steve SingleLeggedTrucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that we as cyclists can&#039;t even get along umoungst ourselves.It&#039;s not bad enough that coffin drivers are out to get us but then someone want to tell somebody else what and how to ride.I have one leg and the other one won&#039;t do what I tell it too.And I ride a bike.The type isn&#039;t the important thing the fact that I ride is. The fact that we all ride is the reason we should work together not against each other. BluesCat thankyou for defending a Cyclist.Jamesmallon has a problem with letting others be themselves.I thank god we all ride.No I don&#039;t support a war for Oil but I do support each and every cyclist that is doing his/her part.Take care of each other and worry about yourselves not what others do or don&#039;t do.The world does not need do gooders that think there shit dosn&#039;t stink.Buy the way My favorite bike is a Big Dummy for commuting.I can carry a wheelchair,two panniers full of what ever and a pint for when I get home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that we as cyclists can&#8217;t even get along umoungst ourselves.It&#8217;s not bad enough that coffin drivers are out to get us but then someone want to tell somebody else what and how to ride.I have one leg and the other one won&#8217;t do what I tell it too.And I ride a bike.The type isn&#8217;t the important thing the fact that I ride is. The fact that we all ride is the reason we should work together not against each other. BluesCat thankyou for defending a Cyclist.Jamesmallon has a problem with letting others be themselves.I thank god we all ride.No I don&#8217;t support a war for Oil but I do support each and every cyclist that is doing his/her part.Take care of each other and worry about yourselves not what others do or don&#8217;t do.The world does not need do gooders that think there shit dosn&#8217;t stink.Buy the way My favorite bike is a Big Dummy for commuting.I can carry a wheelchair,two panniers full of what ever and a pint for when I get home.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I gotta sharpen up on my wordsmithing if I ever hope to ride a recumbent. Does BluesCat teach an online course in comebackery at any local community colleges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I gotta sharpen up on my wordsmithing if I ever hope to ride a recumbent. Does BluesCat teach an online course in comebackery at any local community colleges?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted Porteur because it sounds like you&#039;ll be spending most of your riding time on short trips (4-mile each way commute).  This design affords you the ability to go with an upright seating position, which is inherently more comfortable than a drop-bar defined seating position.  Additionally, the porteur design allows heavy loading on a front rack which makes for convenient access to whatever whether you&#039;re commuting or touring.  Finally, you can build up a porteur with a range of bar types, some of which allow for both aero and upright riding positions (e.g., moustache bars).  One more thing - looking at the Kogswell P/R frame, it can do double duty as a porteur and light touring bike, depending on the build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted Porteur because it sounds like you&#8217;ll be spending most of your riding time on short trips (4-mile each way commute).  This design affords you the ability to go with an upright seating position, which is inherently more comfortable than a drop-bar defined seating position.  Additionally, the porteur design allows heavy loading on a front rack which makes for convenient access to whatever whether you&#8217;re commuting or touring.  Finally, you can build up a porteur with a range of bar types, some of which allow for both aero and upright riding positions (e.g., moustache bars).  One more thing &#8211; looking at the Kogswell P/R frame, it can do double duty as a porteur and light touring bike, depending on the build.</p>
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		<title>By: Bike Shop Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bike Shop Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey RexMarx,

check out the article we talk about who the bike is for..or any others in the series

http://commutebybike.com/tag/group-build/

thanks for your response</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey RexMarx,</p>
<p>check out the article we talk about who the bike is for..or any others in the series</p>
<p><a href="http://commutebybike.com/tag/group-build/" rel="nofollow">http://commutebybike.com/tag/group-build/</a></p>
<p>thanks for your response</p>
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		<title>By: RexMarx</title>
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		<dc:creator>RexMarx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impossible question.  Set a few parameters like the following: 
- Distance of commute. 
- Location (is this Portland or Dallas)? 
- Age of rider or fitness level.  My Mom and I would have different choices for the same trip. 

With all that said, this is an interesting experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impossible question.  Set a few parameters like the following:<br />
- Distance of commute.<br />
- Location (is this Portland or Dallas)?<br />
- Age of rider or fitness level.  My Mom and I would have different choices for the same trip. </p>
<p>With all that said, this is an interesting experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt:  Oh, yeah, I&#039;m having fun, too; maybe my gut busting laughing out caused my comebacks to come across a little too strident?  Okay, so noted, I&#039;ll TRY to back off to simply snickering uncontrollably.

Oh, and jamesmallon?  You got an answer for Sailfast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt:  Oh, yeah, I&#8217;m having fun, too; maybe my gut busting laughing out caused my comebacks to come across a little too strident?  Okay, so noted, I&#8217;ll TRY to back off to simply snickering uncontrollably.</p>
<p>Oh, and jamesmallon?  You got an answer for Sailfast?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BluesCat - 

And here I thought &#039;bent riders were chill people!

Take it easy, he was just poking fun... and he left you plenty of material to poke fun back if you put your mind to it.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://commutebybike.com/2009/11/04/the-perfect-commuter-bike-type/comment-page-1/#comment-138211&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Walt&lt;/a&gt; had the right approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BluesCat &#8211; </p>
<p>And here I thought &#8216;bent riders were chill people!</p>
<p>Take it easy, he was just poking fun&#8230; and he left you plenty of material to poke fun back if you put your mind to it.</p>
<p><a href="http://commutebybike.com/2009/11/04/the-perfect-commuter-bike-type/comment-page-1/#comment-138211" rel="nofollow">Walt</a> had the right approach.</p>
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		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jamesmallon:  &quot;Hadn’t crossed my mind...&quot;  Yeah, I guess a lot of things haven&#039;t ventured across that wasteland.

Example:  the common soldiers who have actually fought in Afghanistan, for BOTH our countries, haven&#039;t been a part of promoting this &quot;imperial adventure&quot; you mention; rightly or wrongly, they have simply been trying to do what they believe is right.  Unlike you, who&#039;s goal is simply to denigrate something without any real substance to your argument.  That being said, your rant reveals your real personal problem doesn&#039;t have anything to do with bicycles, and their suitability for a task, but has EVERYTHING to do with the fact you just can&#039;t stand anybody disagreeing with you and demonstrating to you, and everyone else, that your arguments are groundless.

I ride in the city, too, for most of my riding.  Everybody seems to notice my recumbent, unlike other bicycles which seem to be invisible to motorists.  Two other reasons I feel much safer on a recumbent than on an upright bike are that in a crash on a recumbent, (1) it&#039;s a lot less farther to the ground, and (2) the riding position on a recumbent means you&#039;re much more likely to land on your butt than on your head (Hmmm, maybe I have a whole new take on things which have, and haven&#039;t, &quot;crossed your mind.&quot;)    

An &quot;abomination&quot;?  Sounds like you have yet ANOTHER personal problem fella: you can&#039;t distinguish between a mere alternative bicycle configuration and a religious movement.  Maybe you&#039;ve crashed on your head too many times, James?  Too much pavement has &quot;crossed your mind&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jamesmallon:  &#8220;Hadn’t crossed my mind&#8230;&#8221;  Yeah, I guess a lot of things haven&#8217;t ventured across that wasteland.</p>
<p>Example:  the common soldiers who have actually fought in Afghanistan, for BOTH our countries, haven&#8217;t been a part of promoting this &#8220;imperial adventure&#8221; you mention; rightly or wrongly, they have simply been trying to do what they believe is right.  Unlike you, who&#8217;s goal is simply to denigrate something without any real substance to your argument.  That being said, your rant reveals your real personal problem doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with bicycles, and their suitability for a task, but has EVERYTHING to do with the fact you just can&#8217;t stand anybody disagreeing with you and demonstrating to you, and everyone else, that your arguments are groundless.</p>
<p>I ride in the city, too, for most of my riding.  Everybody seems to notice my recumbent, unlike other bicycles which seem to be invisible to motorists.  Two other reasons I feel much safer on a recumbent than on an upright bike are that in a crash on a recumbent, (1) it&#8217;s a lot less farther to the ground, and (2) the riding position on a recumbent means you&#8217;re much more likely to land on your butt than on your head (Hmmm, maybe I have a whole new take on things which have, and haven&#8217;t, &#8220;crossed your mind.&#8221;)    </p>
<p>An &#8220;abomination&#8221;?  Sounds like you have yet ANOTHER personal problem fella: you can&#8217;t distinguish between a mere alternative bicycle configuration and a religious movement.  Maybe you&#8217;ve crashed on your head too many times, James?  Too much pavement has &#8220;crossed your mind&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: jamesmallon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamesmallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Walt&#039; and &#039;Sailfast&#039;, don&#039;t make it so easy to prove my point about herpes.

As for the vet/injury/disabled thing.  Hadn&#039;t crossed my mind, sorry.  Here in Canada we haven&#039;t been very involved in your imperial adventures, though reaping the benefits to our GDP, until we got conned into Afghanistan, so we don&#039;t see too many war injuries on our streets.  I&#039;d wager most of your weapon-injuries are sustained domestically: thank god for the NRA.

That spew aside, I do regularly see a dude on a low-trike with something that appears like spina-bifida.  Despite his slow pace, he has all of my respect as I know he&#039;s working a hell of a lot harder than me.  He has an excuse for the abomination he rides.

I ride in the city.  I can&#039;t see hopping curbs, locking my bike to the racks we have, getting it inside my house or office, posting over the crappy pavement here, or weaving among and staying out from under Toronto&#039;s witless cab and suburban drivers on one of your abominations.

I&#039;d have played nice with you, but you raised the stakes.  I&#039;ll give you this: at least you&#039;re not an electric-bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Walt&#8217; and &#8216;Sailfast&#8217;, don&#8217;t make it so easy to prove my point about herpes.</p>
<p>As for the vet/injury/disabled thing.  Hadn&#8217;t crossed my mind, sorry.  Here in Canada we haven&#8217;t been very involved in your imperial adventures, though reaping the benefits to our GDP, until we got conned into Afghanistan, so we don&#8217;t see too many war injuries on our streets.  I&#8217;d wager most of your weapon-injuries are sustained domestically: thank god for the NRA.</p>
<p>That spew aside, I do regularly see a dude on a low-trike with something that appears like spina-bifida.  Despite his slow pace, he has all of my respect as I know he&#8217;s working a hell of a lot harder than me.  He has an excuse for the abomination he rides.</p>
<p>I ride in the city.  I can&#8217;t see hopping curbs, locking my bike to the racks we have, getting it inside my house or office, posting over the crappy pavement here, or weaving among and staying out from under Toronto&#8217;s witless cab and suburban drivers on one of your abominations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have played nice with you, but you raised the stakes.  I&#8217;ll give you this: at least you&#8217;re not an electric-bike.</p>
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